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Post by adrenalhealing on Sept 12, 2016 22:08:17 GMT
I've read Dr. Lam say that zinc and other minerals might be stimulating or paradoxical for those in the advanced stages.
Would that be a risk if I were to start Nutritional Balancing now, as I believe NB is very focused on minerals?
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Post by feo1966 on Sept 13, 2016 11:03:45 GMT
The reason for the zinc paradoxical reaction is likely that it causes you to detox copper. And copper toxicity is a major problem with adrenal fatigue.
I could not take ANY zinc until I started doing the coffee enemas.
Yes, nutritional balancing is focus in mineral balancing, but that is a good thing.
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Post by leona on Sept 13, 2016 21:32:23 GMT
Hi, I’d like to add that a hair test can be very helpful before deciding what supplements to take.
Zinc can greatly effect the sodium potassium balance, zinc lowers sodium so if you have an inverted balance, potassium high and sodium low it can be detrimental. My test results have me taking zinc while my boyfriend has the inverted sodium/potassium balance and for now has to stay away from supplementing zinc.
I like that fact that nutritional balancing acknowledges that we are all unique. (both of us are in advanced stages of adrenal exhaustion but came out of “four lows” on our last tests.) Often with adrenal issues you need to go slow and start with a small dose and see how you feel. I can't use the Thyro complex even though it's listed for me, for now even a small amount is too much for me.
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Post by feo1966 on Sept 15, 2016 0:28:02 GMT
Hi, I’d like to add that a hair test can be very helpful before deciding what supplements to take. Zinc can greatly effect the sodium potassium balance, zinc lowers sodium so if you have an inverted balance, potassium high and sodium low it can be detrimental. My test results have me taking zinc while my boyfriend has the inverted sodium/potassium balance and for now has to stay away from supplementing zinc. I like that fact that nutritional balancing acknowledges that we are all unique. (both of us are in advanced stages of adrenal exhaustion but came out of “four lows” on our last tests.) Often with adrenal issues you need to go slow and start with a small dose and see how you feel. I can't use the Thyro complex even though it's listed for me, for now even a small amount is too much for me. Leona. Are you doing the coffee enemas. Just wondering if that might be the reason you have trouble with the thyroid complex |
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Post by leona on Sept 15, 2016 7:36:07 GMT
Leona. Are you doing the coffee enemas. Just wondering if that might be the reason you have trouble with the thyroid complex Hi feo1966, A little background--I went on natural desiccated thyroid back in 2012 and crashed my adrenals. After crashing my adrenals I added hydrocortisone and got somewhat better but had to give up all exercise. Still looking for better stamina and strength, in 2015 I did my first hair test and weaned off the HC, after the second test I also weaned off the NDT, I didn’t feel it was really doing much for me, the only benefit I ever really got was deep sleep and it wasn’t really giving me that anymore. I thought it maybe just stressed my adrenals. I wasn’t able to use the Thyro Complex starting with the first hair test, thinking maybe the NDT and the Thyro Complex together was too much, I stopped the NDT after my second test. On my second hair test I went into 4 lows so no Thyro Complex was recommended, during this time I started CE’s a few times a week. The benefit I get is a subtle calmness, I’ve run on adrenaline for decades and can be pretty tightly wound, so the CE’s really help. After a few months I got into a routine of doing the CE’s everyday which I continue to do. I think the kelp also stresses my adrenals like the Thyro Complex, I take two kelp capsules in the morning but can feel the anxiety build, I’m suppose to take 6 a day along with 6 Thyro Complex. When I started doing NB I stopped taking 12.5mg of Iodoral and started the kelp, but I feel the stress from it. I did try a number of adrenal complexes after crashing but they all caused severe air hunger, for relief I went to the HC, it was a lifesaver, but over time my potassium dropped really low, not looking to add another drug I found NB. So in answer to your question  I don't think the CE's are responsible for me not being able to tolerant the Thyro Complex. My guess is low potassium plays a part and it doesn't get into the cells making me hyper? Last test potassium was a one, sodium a three. Would appreciate any thoughts you might have. |
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Post by adrenalhealing on Sept 17, 2016 12:20:41 GMT
Hi, I’d like to add that a hair test can be very helpful before deciding what supplements to take. Zinc can greatly effect the sodium potassium balance, zinc lowers sodium so if you have an inverted balance, potassium high and sodium low it can be detrimental. My test results have me taking zinc while my boyfriend has the inverted sodium/potassium balance and for now has to stay away from supplementing zinc. I like that fact that nutritional balancing acknowledges that we are all unique. (both of us are in advanced stages of adrenal exhaustion but came out of “four lows” on our last tests.) Often with adrenal issues you need to go slow and start with a small dose and see how you feel. I can't use the Thyro complex even though it's listed for me, for now even a small amount is too much for me. Leona. Are you doing the coffee enemas. Just wondering if that might be the reason you have trouble with the thyroid complex Do you think the stimulant properties of glandulars or herbal adaptogens in those in the advanced stages of adrenal fatigue is due to liver clearance issues alone? |
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Post by feo1966 on Sept 19, 2016 10:28:53 GMT
Do you think the stimulant properties of glandulars or herbal adaptogens in those in the advanced stages of adrenal fatigue is due to liver clearance issues alone? That sounds like a good possibility. But not really sure. I can take anything now, and don't feel stimulation or wired. |
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Post by leona on Sept 20, 2016 5:01:34 GMT
Leona. Are you doing the coffee enemas. Just wondering if that might be the reason you have trouble with the thyroid complex Do you think the stimulant properties of glandulars or herbal adaptogens in those in the advanced stages of adrenal fatigue is due to liver clearance issues alone? feo1966, I'm a bit confused, are you saying the CE's could be causing my problem of not tolerating the thyroid complex? Or that CE's should help with liver clearance and eventually I should be able to tolerant the complex, that's what I'm thinking. |
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Post by feo1966 on Sept 21, 2016 1:01:32 GMT
Do you think the stimulant properties of glandulars or herbal adaptogens in those in the advanced stages of adrenal fatigue is due to liver clearance issues alone? feo1966, I'm a bit confused, are you saying the CE's could be causing my problem of not tolerating the thyroid complex? Or that CE's should help with liver clearance and eventually I should be able to tolerant the complex, that's what I'm thinking. Yes. I think that's what it is. Thyroid complex gives you more energy, so your body starts to detoxify. But because your liver cannot clear than quickly enough, you end up with detox symptoms |
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Post by adrenalhealing on Feb 23, 2017 9:02:18 GMT
So one of the reasons I feel much less anxiety when taking adaptogens, is because there is more energy, and more energy causes copper detox, and less copper means less anxiety?
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I don't think the CE's are responsible for me not being able to tolerant the Thyro Complex. My guess is low potassium plays a part and it doesn't get into the cells making me hyper? Last test potassium was a one, sodium a three.